Does Doing Math Feel Like Something?
This post is a bit of a fluff piece. I mainly wanted to document some things I’ve been thinking about for a while, concerning the notion that mathematics seems to have distinctive phenomenological character. My internal experience of doing mathematics and confronting mathematical concepts feels like something more than merely a composition of sensory phenomena. I should take a moment to remark here that I am not advocating for platonism. That is, I am not claiming that mathematical objects exist independently of the mind, only that my experience of doing mathematics has a distinctive character that is not reducible to sensory phenomena. (In other words, I claim that the answer to the question in the title is yes.) I reckon there is a rich literature about this already, but I am not familiar with what’s all been written, so I’ll have to defer any deep analysis until later. I may edit this post, or create a new post as I start to read about these topics. For now I wish only to document what I have personally noticed.
Dreams#
What first brought my attention to the notion that there might be something it’s like to have a mathematical idea was my own dreams. I have dreams1 on occasion where the only identifiable phenomenal content is of mathematical objects.2 This usually happens when I am quite sick and enduring feverish delirium. But the interesting part is that there is usually little to no visual or auditory content to these dreams. It’s more like I am being haunted by spectres of mathematical substance.3
Many times the experience is just “of” the concepts themselves. Most recently, I was sick with a virus that made my throat so sore I couldn’t fall fully asleep.5 I spent an entire night in a kind of half-asleep state where, as best as I can describe, I was hallucinating 40 three-dimensional Brownian motions conditioned on their paths belonging to the unit cube in the positive orthant, and each of their paths beginning in the center of the cube. Each of the Brownian motions’ position was represented using a hexadecimal string that ended with an ellipsis (so I suppose it was infinite precision). There was a leaderboard that tracked which Brownian motions had gotten closest to the origin, and every time there was a change in the leaderboard, I briefly woke up. I recall there was also something about Schur complements. Interestingly, other than the hexadecimal strings, there was barely any visual content to these hallucinations. So there had to have been something else to my experience that granted me this kind of knowledge about the dream’s contents.
Sometimes the dreams are additionally accompanied by a feeling of understanding some mathematical truth. In one dream, I became convinced that I had “solved logistic regression”. If I was lying on my right side, then the “answer” was 0, and if I was lying on my left side, then the “answer” was 1. I don’t remember what I had interpreted lying on my back to mean; perhaps 0.5? I do remember feeling a bit anguished about this case before declaring it solved. Of course, this is all complete nonsense, but the feeling was quite palpable.
Interestingly, in some other dreams, I have the pure feeling of reasoning without any other phenomenal content. These are immensely frustrating and exhausting dreams, since I have the experience of expending lots of mental effort trying to reason through something, but that something is never available to me. I will wake up from these dreams feeling poorly rested and confused.
Mathematics in waking life#
Visual accompaniment. I think the reason that I did not notice this before is that in waking life, doing mathematics is almost always accompanied by some kind of visual content6, and it’s hard for me to isolate what about my experience is left when stripped of any kind of sensory or quasi-sensory mediation.
Symbol manipulation. I also usually don’t need to even confront mathematical objects directly.7 Usually, I outsource much of my thought to symbols. For instance, if I have a linear operator and I want to take its SVD, then I don’t need to summon the phenomenal state of working with a linear operator and decomposing its action. I just write and call it done. The only “intuition” that I might feel is one of being magnetized towards symbolic manipulations that feel most fruitful.8
Mathematical intuition. At a certain point, raw symbol manipulation fails and I do have to resort to mathematical intuition. While this engagement, again, often involves some kind of visual imagery, I don’t think the imagery is the intuition. Eventually, if I’m lucky, I will feel a sense of synchrony and insight, even if all of my visual imagery has stayed the same. It feels like finding a block in a Jenga tower that moves easily, or perhaps a posture or hold on a rock wall that actually lets you progress. The feeling of the mathematics “giving way” is certainly something beyond sensory phenomena, and I contend that it proceeds from a kind of phenomenal state that is not purely (quasi-)sensory. This feeling happens in just about every nontrivial proof I have to write (although, come to think of it, perhaps it’s what defines a proof as being nontrivial). It was particularly strong when I was participating in SURIM in summer 2021. I was working with Santi Aranguri and Slava Naprienko on a new direct proof of Tokuyama’s formula, as documented in section 4 of our final report, and while reaching equation (23) was doable with just symbolic manipulation, factoring the sum from there seemed impossible until, after many hours of working out examples with Santi, I felt something give way in my brain as I intuited that we could simply expand the domain of the sum without changing its value, and the problem seemed to disappear. (Well, not entirely since we still had some working to do, but that particular roadblock fell.)
Mathematical and logical intuition. Notice here that I am actually separating the phenomenal states of doing mathematics and reasoning. Sometimes I will experience this feeling of giving way, but when I try to rationally justify my intuition, it turns out to be wrong.9 Conversely, my logical intuition will sometimes fail where my mathematical intuition succeeds, and I’ll have a correct proof that I for some reason feel is wrong. It’s actually rather strange to me that mathematical and logical intuitions should be so well aligned, but not perfectly so. I think deciding on axioms is a great example to illustrate this sort of disconnect, since logically we have no reason to prefer (say) the inclusion or exclusion of the axiom of choice, or the continuum hypothesis, yet I feel intuitively that some axioms are just “mathematically correct”. I wonder: if we had no logical intuitions but still had mathematical intuitions, then would we simply accept or reject mathematical statements purely based upon intuition?
Different kinds of understanding#
There also seem to be different ways to feel understanding in mathematics. I consider here the case of trying to understand a result and its proof, but I acknowledge that there are different ways of understanding particular mathematical concepts as well. We use the proprioceptive metaphor often: depending how well I can “grasp” the concept, I am better able to make use of it. There is perhaps much to say about this feeling but I wish to focus on results and proofs for now.
Stepwise and holistic understanding. I might be able to follow along with the proof as an “ant on the page,” as Persi Diaconis likes to say, but not holistically. That is, I understand the steps taken individually, but I somehow lose the plot when I try to take it in at once.10 Notably, sometimes the feeling of holistic understanding appears without ever being presented with new information, and perhaps without even rereading the proof. What’s changed?11 Suddenly I feel that I grasp the essence of the proof, and can reproduce it without much thought, or I can even transfer the technique elsewhere.
Essential understanding. If I do understand the proof holistically, I still might not understand why the theorem is true. I understand that the theorem is true, but I feel that I have not understood the essence of the result. The classic example is the four-color theorem, which to my knowledge lacks a satisfying proof to this day. In fact I find that there are lots of examples in combinatorics and graph theory. The proof can even be slick and carry the feeling of elegance, but still be epistemically hollow. Consider the following two proofs of Euler’s partition identity (the discussion here is partly adapted from this note by George E. Andrews).
The generating function proof is slick, but I find it to be unsatisfying as an explanation. It tells us nothing about why distinct parts and odd parts are related structurally. Glaisher’s bijective proof, on the other hand, reveals the structural reason behind the identity: the binary representation of multiplicities mediates between distinctness and oddness.
Contextual understanding. And even if I can feel and intuit why a theorem is true and how the proof manages to demonstrate it, there can still be a lingering sense of incompleteness, a feeling that the statement’s place in the broader mathematical landscape has not been made clear. I feel this most when there are some objects or there’s a collection of results that I feel should be related, and I can understand each individually, but I don’t see any obvious kind of unifying principle. Off the top of my head, one result that sated this feeling of disconnect was Zabreiko’s lemma, which quite tidily unified the four major results one learns early in functional analysis.12 Without going into too much detail, I currently feel this way about the state of optimization algorithms. There are lots of different kinds and classifications of optimization algorithms—first-order methods, second-order methods, population methods, stochastic methods—and it feels to me like they should all be much more closely related than we currently treat them. The book Large-Scale Convex Optimization: Algorithms & Analyses via Monotone Operators by Ernest Ryu and Wotao Yin does a phenomenal13 job at showing how a lot of first-order methods can be analyzed through a unified framework, that of monotone operators. I feel that much more unification can be done, perhaps not in the same way as monotone operators describe first-order methods, but in some way that realizes all of these different kinds of optimization algorithms through a natural framework.
Natural definitions. As a final point, I want to bring up the feeling of naturalness, particularly as it appears in definitions. The above feelings of holistic, essential, and contextual understanding in proofs, as well as the comfort and ease with which I can use some mathematical idea, seem to depend a fair amount on having made the most natural choice in definitions and notation. There is a feeling that we have named and signified the most salient features and affordances of the mathematical landscape, and that we have placed distinctions in the right places to capture exactly the essential qualities of an idea. We haven’t gerrymandered, doing something akin to assigning a name to some arbitrary combination like “the two easternmost legs of a chair in this room combined with the hour hand of Big Ben”. No, we’ve assigned names only to the legs, the back, the seat, and the composite object (the chair). The feeling of naturalness is that we have definitions that track genuine structure.
I won’t dwell on this point too long here. Jamie Tappenden discusses what this feeling could mean much more extensively and precisely in Mathematical Concepts and Definitions and Mathematical Concepts: Fruitfulness and Naturalness, both of which are chapters of the book The Philosophy of Mathematical Practice edited by Paolo Mancosu. There he takes seriously the idea that the feeling of “naturalness” is about something, and that we can test ideas’ naturalness quasi-empirically. He examines the idea that naturalness is about fruitfulness, and provides the Legendre symbol as a central example.
Closing thoughts#
I haven’t written this to try to make any kind of commitment to or argument for or against any kind of metaphysics regarding mathematics. I’ve simply tried to document some observations about what doing mathematics feels like from the inside, that there seems to be phenomenal content beyond the sensory, that mathematical and logical intuition can come apart, that understanding comes in qualitatively different flavors which are themselves felt rather than merely known. I am not yet sure what knowledge can be drawn from these feelings to be honest. But I find it curious that these experiences are so vivid to me and yet so rarely discussed among my colleagues. Perhaps others have noticed the same things.